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T O P I C R E V I E Wmel0nfishIf someone with:Scorpio asc.Cancer SunSagittarius MoonPisces Marswere angry with you, what would be the best way to talk to them &get them to forgive you. also, how could you tell they were very angry (currently avoiding me!! can't tell much) like to the point of cutting you out of their lifeTxGirl quote:Originally posted by mel0nfish:If someone with:Scorpio asc.Cancer SunSagittarius MoonPisces Marswere angry with you, what would be the best way to talk to them &get them to forgive you. also, how could you tell they were very angry (currently avoiding me!! can't tell much) like to the point of cutting you out of their lifeI don't know how much help I can be. I'm cap sun, scorp asc, gem moon, pisces mars in venus.Reallt it depends what you did, I think withdrawing is what many of us do due to our evil words, striking out when we don't want them to.I always step back and avoid people right off to collect my thoughts and decide if 1. It's worth forgiving.2. How important this person is.3. Boil over in anger and repeat everything a few more times.4. Finally forgive them and decide to talk to them again or be done with it.Not much you can do to push someone especially a scorpio to forgive you imo. Give it a few days and email them or send a letter. I hate being bothered when I'min that state but something I can read- I can do that when I'm ready and say everything you feel and what you mean and need to say.Leave anything unimportant out and don't beg. It's very unbecoming.Just my 2 cents though, sorry it isn't happier :/AstraI agree with TxGirl. Just give them some time to mull it over. If they don't want to speak to you, then just accept it and move on. Ami AnneI am a Scorpio ASC with a Cancer moon.It takes a LOT for me to cut someone out of my life.I,actually,will be hurt over and over and over and make a million excuses. I think I will block my heart at some point,though. ------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city ProverbslittlecloudThe only real "cut throat" placement here is the scorpio asc. The cancer and pisces can be masochists. Cancers have a hard time letting go of anything. It takes a lot to reach that decision. The sag moon really adds a sort of carefree attitude of "live and let live." Pisces mars takes longer to react than lets say a aries mars. They have more of a tendency to repress their anger. The best way would be to appeal to them with honesty expressing, a true sincere apology for your actions. It would take this person a lot to cut you off but I believe they would eventually hear you out, but not necessarily forgive, or forget. Cancers are notorious for forgiving and not forgetting, scorpio for revenge, and sag for forgetting there was an argument to begin with. It really depends on what happened to cause this. It could be a case of "too little, too late". Or someone else could have forced them to cut you out. *shrugs* Like I said it depends. All you can do is sincerely apologize, but forgiveness is ultimately up to the other person. I will stress that the apology but be sincere, as in you don't continue to do the same thing over and over again and truly feel sorry for what you did otherwise this will just make this person cut you out for good and with every right.Ami AnneI have to tell you,I have always been afraid of my OWN Asc---Scorpio. I have been afraid of what it has IN it. I am afraid to look inside and SEE what I am capable of. I think it is not too good ------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city ProverbsLonakeAmi, do you have any tips on recognizing Scorpio Asc (as you are one)?Melon, give details if you can, some things are unforgivable from Scorp Asc pov.TxGirl quote:Originally posted by Lonake:Ami, do you have any tips on recognizing Scorpio Asc (as you are one)?Melon, give details if you can, some things are unforgivable from Scorp Asc pov.I know you didn't ask me but I was curious and this is what I came up with."The most noticeable characteristic of the Scorpio rising individual are his or her large, penetrating eyes. The facial features are sharp and the skin may be oily or have a sallow appearance. The body is usually muscular, strong and thickset. This person rarely shows emotion and tends to have immobile facial expression"I'd assume the decan matters and other factors, and it isn't ALWAYS right. I've seen blue eyed scorp risings.mel0nfish quote:Originally posted by Lonake:Ami, do you have any tips on recognizing Scorpio Asc (as you are one)?Melon, give details if you can, some things are unforgivable from Scorp Asc pov.What I did was...really bad. I'm so embarrassed by it, i don't know if I can even say (I will try)! But I feel like he's probably lost a lot of respect for me because of it.Basically, he had a party and I was so annoyed & couldn't take his "games" anymore because he wasn't talking to me at the party. I got very, very drunk and went into his room and made a mess I opened all of his drawers and threw his clothes across the room. Then he told my friends to take me home, and I refused to leave until he talked to me & told me to go home himself but he wouldn't, and my friends dragged me home. Uhhh heh I have lilith & juno in scorpio, would that explain (not excuse!) my crazy behavior? I've never done anything like that before! I never even knew I had it in me and felt like I was so ugly/nasty.I don't know if he can forgive me!! as a cancer, wouldn't messing up his home be the worst offense?Ohh boymel0nfishalso a few days ago he sent me an email, saying sorry for taking so long to contact and he hoped i didn't think he was a jerk but he was just frustrated, and couldn't handle that night. i replied saying how sorry I was and I hope he accepted my apology and didn't think ill of me (i really wanted to say, give me another chance but didn't!) but he hasn't responded to that...did i ruin everything with him!Ami AnneUmmmmmmm (((Melonfish))) Please get a hold of yourself for the future As far as *I* with a Scorpio ASC, if a person could show me that it was a one time event and not a pattern,I would give them a chance. That would be where you would need to focus,Sweetie. How to do it? I would be really,really cool and show him you have a cool side.------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city ProverbsAmi AnneJust to add to my answer. IF I thought this would be a persistent pattern,I would leave,for good. Please, let me know what happens,Sweetheart ------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbsmel0nfish quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:Ummmmmmm (((Melonfish))) Please get a hold of yourself for the future As far as *I* with a Scorpio ASC, if a person could show me that it was a one time event and not a pattern,I would give them a chance. That would be where you would need to focus,Sweetie. How to do it? I would be really,really cool and show him you have a cool side.Yes, yes I know!! I was very bad and usually I am so cool! I have a cap asc & venus and am usually...down to earth/normal haha. But we've been "talking" for 5 months and then finally got "intimate" the week before this event! & then we didn't talk all week OR at the party and I messed up!I needed to back off the drinking/going to parties and have been just staying with my family and concentrating on school for the past month. I went out a few days ago and couldn't even stay out too long, and think I've cooled off...maybe my mars/moon being in Sagittarius hinders my ability to be "cool" idk!?Ami Anne, could you at least still be friends with someone after that?! He recently made a Facebook event and invited all of my friends (even ones he's not close/cool with) and excluded me from it...I thought that was really mean? But idk if i'm being too sensitive...Ami AnneWell, IF I thought you were LIKE that,I would not be friends. If *I* put you in that box ,I would not come back. For me,it takes me a long time to put someone in that box. Describe your whole relationship,step by step,if you could ,and I will try to FEEL it. I can't get a feel for the sequence of your relationship with him and I would need to. Maybe, I can help ------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city ProverbsAmi AnneI would have to feel if he has lost respect for you where it cannot come back or if there is a chance you can win it back.------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbsmel0nfish quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:I would have to feel if he has lost respect for you where it cannot come back or if there is a chance you can win it back.Well I have to leave my house atm but I will type it out (i feel like there will be a lot to write!) when I return.Ami AnnePlease,Sweetie,Write it all out .I need to see what you had BEFORE this incident in order to see what you may be able to salvage ------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city ProverbsBenedict Moon* quote:I don't know if he can forgive me!! as a cancer, wouldn't messing up his home be the worst offense?I hate to say this but....yeah. Not to mention you probably left a very bad impression on him. I'm a Cancer Sun and I don't think I'd talk to you for a looong time after you did that. Though it sounds like he's forgiven you from the other posts. Anyways, his sun and his Ascendant are in two of the least forgiving signs in the zodiac, but the ruler of his Sun (Moon) in Sagittarius meaning he's probably not as inclined to hold grudges.Ami AnneI did not see you ask me that question,Lonake. Sorry,Sweetie. I am not a good one to ask about a Scorpio Asc,in many ways. I have Saturn conjunct the ASC so I am coming in to my Scorpio late. I AM coming in to it ,though. I think you have very strong loyalties and strong dislikes. I will come back and write more,later ------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city ProverbsHerz_Aus_Steini also have a Scorp wrath question...what about a Cap whose left side of her chart is more or less Scorp everything? Ami AnneI figured out the answer for myself. If the person has bad character to a certain degree, I will put them out and never look bad. What constitutes bad character? That is each person's call. I have my own line in the sand which I am formulating through life experience which consists of doing it wrong. I think you fail your way to success.I know I do. Back to your dumping out the drawers,Melonfish,I would have to figure out if you crossed the line. ------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbsmel0nfish quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:I figured out the answer for myself. If the person has bad character to a certain degree, I will put them out and never look bad. What constitutes bad character? That is each person's call. I have my own line in the sand which I am formulating through life experience which consists of doing it wrong. I think you fail your way to success.I know I do. Back to your dumping out the drawers,Melonfish,I would have to figure out if you crossed the line. Hi ami anne,I keep trying to start writing everything out step by step from the beginning but can't ahhhh it's kind of painful, idk why. so far, he's forgiven me i think but I don't think it can go anywhere else from here. Ughhhh gugugugugu the worst part is i feel like it's all my fault! He's stuck around while I've acted weird for so long and then I finally did it and pushed him away!!! Buhuhuhuhuh this is so sad, but now at least I know how to never be again.I hate my venus (ha)it's in capricorn, retrogradeconjunct saturnPOOpoo to relationships i'm done with people.
Scorpio asc.Cancer SunSagittarius MoonPisces Mars
were angry with you, what would be the best way to talk to them &get them to forgive you. also, how could you tell they were very angry (currently avoiding me!! can't tell much) like to the point of cutting you out of their life
quote:Originally posted by mel0nfish:If someone with:Scorpio asc.Cancer SunSagittarius MoonPisces Marswere angry with you, what would be the best way to talk to them &get them to forgive you. also, how could you tell they were very angry (currently avoiding me!! can't tell much) like to the point of cutting you out of their life
I don't know how much help I can be. I'm cap sun, scorp asc, gem moon, pisces mars in venus.
Reallt it depends what you did, I think withdrawing is what many of us do due to our evil words, striking out when we don't want them to.
I always step back and avoid people right off to collect my thoughts and decide if 1. It's worth forgiving.2. How important this person is.3. Boil over in anger and repeat everything a few more times.4. Finally forgive them and decide to talk to them again or be done with it.
Not much you can do to push someone especially a scorpio to forgive you imo.
Give it a few days and email them or send a letter. I hate being bothered when I'min that state but something I can read- I can do that when I'm ready and say everything you feel and what you mean and need to say.
Leave anything unimportant out and don't beg. It's very unbecoming.
Just my 2 cents though, sorry it isn't happier :/
------------------Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs
The best way would be to appeal to them with honesty expressing, a true sincere apology for your actions. It would take this person a lot to cut you off but I believe they would eventually hear you out, but not necessarily forgive, or forget. Cancers are notorious for forgiving and not forgetting, scorpio for revenge, and sag for forgetting there was an argument to begin with.
It really depends on what happened to cause this. It could be a case of "too little, too late". Or someone else could have forced them to cut you out. *shrugs* Like I said it depends. All you can do is sincerely apologize, but forgiveness is ultimately up to the other person. I will stress that the apology but be sincere, as in you don't continue to do the same thing over and over again and truly feel sorry for what you did otherwise this will just make this person cut you out for good and with every right.
Melon, give details if you can, some things are unforgivable from Scorp Asc pov.
quote:Originally posted by Lonake:Ami, do you have any tips on recognizing Scorpio Asc (as you are one)?Melon, give details if you can, some things are unforgivable from Scorp Asc pov.
I know you didn't ask me but I was curious and this is what I came up with.
"The most noticeable characteristic of the Scorpio rising individual are his or her large, penetrating eyes. The facial features are sharp and the skin may be oily or have a sallow appearance. The body is usually muscular, strong and thickset. This person rarely shows emotion and tends to have immobile facial expression"
I'd assume the decan matters and other factors, and it isn't ALWAYS right. I've seen blue eyed scorp risings.
What I did was...really bad. I'm so embarrassed by it, i don't know if I can even say (I will try)! But I feel like he's probably lost a lot of respect for me because of it.
Basically, he had a party and I was so annoyed & couldn't take his "games" anymore because he wasn't talking to me at the party. I got very, very drunk and went into his room and made a mess I opened all of his drawers and threw his clothes across the room. Then he told my friends to take me home, and I refused to leave until he talked to me & told me to go home himself but he wouldn't, and my friends dragged me home.
Uhhh heh I have lilith & juno in scorpio, would that explain (not excuse!) my crazy behavior? I've never done anything like that before! I never even knew I had it in me and felt like I was so ugly/nasty.
I don't know if he can forgive me!! as a cancer, wouldn't messing up his home be the worst offense?
Ohh boy
did i ruin everything with him!
quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:Ummmmmmm (((Melonfish))) Please get a hold of yourself for the future As far as *I* with a Scorpio ASC, if a person could show me that it was a one time event and not a pattern,I would give them a chance. That would be where you would need to focus,Sweetie. How to do it? I would be really,really cool and show him you have a cool side.
Yes, yes I know!! I was very bad and usually I am so cool! I have a cap asc & venus and am usually...down to earth/normal haha. But we've been "talking" for 5 months and then finally got "intimate" the week before this event! & then we didn't talk all week OR at the party and I messed up!
I needed to back off the drinking/going to parties and have been just staying with my family and concentrating on school for the past month. I went out a few days ago and couldn't even stay out too long, and think I've cooled off...
maybe my mars/moon being in Sagittarius hinders my ability to be "cool" idk!?
Ami Anne, could you at least still be friends with someone after that?! He recently made a Facebook event and invited all of my friends (even ones he's not close/cool with) and excluded me from it...I thought that was really mean? But idk if i'm being too sensitive...
quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:I would have to feel if he has lost respect for you where it cannot come back or if there is a chance you can win it back.
Well I have to leave my house atm but I will type it out (i feel like there will be a lot to write!) when I return.
quote:I don't know if he can forgive me!! as a cancer, wouldn't messing up his home be the worst offense?
I hate to say this but....yeah. Not to mention you probably left a very bad impression on him. I'm a Cancer Sun and I don't think I'd talk to you for a looong time after you did that. Though it sounds like he's forgiven you from the other posts. Anyways, his sun and his Ascendant are in two of the least forgiving signs in the zodiac, but the ruler of his Sun (Moon) in Sagittarius meaning he's probably not as inclined to hold grudges.
what about a Cap whose left side of her chart is more or less Scorp everything?
quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:I figured out the answer for myself. If the person has bad character to a certain degree, I will put them out and never look bad. What constitutes bad character? That is each person's call. I have my own line in the sand which I am formulating through life experience which consists of doing it wrong. I think you fail your way to success.I know I do. Back to your dumping out the drawers,Melonfish,I would have to figure out if you crossed the line.
Hi ami anne,I keep trying to start writing everything out step by step from the beginning but can't ahhhh it's kind of painful, idk why. so far, he's forgiven me i think but I don't think it can go anywhere else from here. Ughhhh gugugugugu the worst part is i feel like it's all my fault! He's stuck around while I've acted weird for so long and then I finally did it and pushed him away!!! Buhuhuhuhuh this is so sad, but now at least I know how to never be again.
I hate my venus (ha)it's in capricorn, retrogradeconjunct saturn
POO
poo to relationships i'm done with people.
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